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About Shep Hyken

Shep Hyken is a customer service expert, keynote speaker, and New York Times, bestselling business author. For information on The Customer Focus™ customer service training programs, go to www.thecustomerfocus.com. Follow on Twitter: @Hyken

Not All Customers Are Worth Doing Business With

Not All Customers Are Worth Doing Business With

GUEST POST from Shep Hyken

In some of my customer service speeches, I joke that some customers aren’t worth doing business with. The way I position it in the speech is funny, but in reality, it’s pretty serious. Sometimes, a customer isn’t worth doing business with because they are truly a bad customer. The result could be choosing to say, “Goodbye,” and sending them to the competition.

While there are many reasons you might end your relationship with a customer, I came up with six obvious ones to get you thinking:

  1. Customers who repeatedly return products. This is often the result of a liberal return policy that some customers abuse. Repeated returns cost money – sometimes more than the profit from the sale.
  2. Customers who make unwarranted complaints about service. You’ve heard the recording: “These calls are recorded for quality assurance.” Not only are recorded calls great for training, but they can also become evidence of a customer who has an unwarranted complaint about the company’s customer service – or any other situation.
  3. Customers who demand unreasonable solutions to problems. If the customer’s demands are unreasonable and they won’t accept the solutions or compensation an employee is offering, it may be time to let them go.
  4. Customers who take up too much time. For example, customers who repeatedly send back products, which takes up too much time and costs the company money.
  5. Customers who are argumentative. Some customers will argue, and nothing will make them happy. When they realize you are about to “fire” them as a customer, they sometimes recognize that they are being unreasonable. But, when they don’t, it’s time to consider saying, “Goodbye.”
  6. Customers who are abusive toward employees. This is more than an argumentative customer – it is taking rude and argumentative to another level. The customer curses, insults or threatens the employee. While we always want to be polite to our customers, sometimes it’s okay to politely transfer them to a manager or, if empowered to do so, politely say goodbye and hang up.

Bad Customer Cartoon from Shep Hyken

Keep in mind that it’s our job to take a negative event or abusive customer and turn the situation around. Another way of saying it is to turn rants into raves. Yet, in some cases – hopefully very few – the customer may truly not be worth doing business with … today. That could change in the future. Keep that in mind. Remember one of my favorite sayings:

The customer is not always right, but they are always the customer.

Consider that saying before slamming the door on an abusive customer. If you feel it can’t be worked out – today – close the door quietly, but consider leaving it open, ever-so-slightly, just in case they realize the error of their ways. Maybe they will come back, apologize, and become a great customer – one that is well worth doing business with!

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Creating Long-Term Customer Loyalty

Creating Long-Term Customer Loyalty

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Many years ago, I sold a home. My real estate agent made a value proposition for me. If I hired her to sell my home, I could walk out of the house and never come back. She would manage everything related to maintaining the home and keeping it “showroom ready.” That included lawn care, cleaning and much more. If anything broke, she would take care of. If a painter needed to touch up a wall, she would hire “her painter.” Other than showing up at the closing to sign papers, my only responsibility would be to reimburse her for any expenses she incurred.

She explained that she had a network of preferred vendors who gave her preferential pricing, and she would pass only the actual costs onto me. In addition to her stellar reputation, what she promised to do—make selling my house easy and hassle-free—was the reason I hired her.

At the time, I wondered, “Why don’t other real estate agents do this?” Another question was, “Why don’t more businesses, regardless of the industry they are in, do this?”

It turns out there are people, companies and brands that do. However, many struggle to put together a program like this and find out it’s harder than they thought. Furthermore, what if a company could profit from these recommendations and referrals? What if the referrer received a commission or finder’s fee for recommending the right vendor?

Meet Mikhail Naumov, the founder and CEO of Paylode, a company that helps his clients do exactly what my real estate agent did for me. Naumov says, “If you’re a car company, you’re selling cars. If you’re a pet adoption agency, you’re helping people adopt a new puppy. For the most part, that’s where your job begins and ends. However, the moment the customer buys a car or adopts a puppy, they suddenly have a dozen other problems or pain points they now must solve due to the purchase.”

Naumov’s version of my real estate agent story is that he moved from California to Miami, rented an apartment, and the moment he signed the lease, he thought, “I now need to find renter’s insurance, moving trucks, a storage unit, furniture, appliances, food and more.” His entrepreneurial mind kicked in and he realized there was an opportunity to help apartment rental companies (and now companies across many other industries, including travel, hospitality, and insurance) create a system to take care of their customers’ secondary and tertiary needs. His company, Paylode, was born.

Paylode helps its clients find companies and vendors that their customers need. Sometimes the clients get a referral fee. They typically negotiate discounts that get their customers better rates, and even with the referral fees, the customer still saves money.

While this offers Paylode’s clients an alternative revenue stream by monetizing the products and services they recommend, Naumov quickly realized that it was not the most important reason. The No. 1 reason is making the client’s life easier by helping them with what they need, related to but outside of what their actual business does. This ultimately creates a better customer experience, which in turn drives core business metrics (i.e., retention, engagement, LTV, repeat purchase, and more).

In a sense, the Paylode program is like offering a perk to the customer. Naumov says, “We live in an incentive economy.” Customers love to be rewarded with a perk for doing business with a company. That perk could be, as mentioned, a negotiated discount with a secondary business. But what if you took that further and offered other perks? For example, an apartment rental company could offer six months of free internet with popular streaming channels like MAX and AppleTV. A perk like that becomes an incentive behind a customer’s buying decision, which is why Naumov has named this feature of his platform “Paylode Boost,” focusing on a perk that incentivizes a customer to take a desired action, or choose one company over another.

Companies and brands spend most of their time focused on their own business. Naumov says they have tunnel vision and makes the case for companies from all industries—both B2C and B2B—to step outside of that tunnel and think about their customers’ needs beyond the core product or service they offer. It starts by asking the question, “What new problems show up in my customers’ lives as a consequence of buying from me?”

Sit down with your team and work out the answer, and consider Naumov’s suggestion to “Help customers solve those secondary and tertiary problems in a way that creates loyalty, engagement and gratitude from your customers for life.”

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This article originally appeared on Forbes.com

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Change Requires Work and Choice

Change Requires Work and Choice

GUEST POST from Shep Hyken

At the end of the CEO’s speech to his employees, he said, “And one other thing, we want to deliver better customer service.” Then he walked off stage.

Delivering better customer service is a good idea, but just saying you want to do so will not make it happen. Most likely, it will remain just a good idea, because, without the right implementation, the idea will never come to anything. Nothing will change.

A big part of my business is serving as a keynote speaker on customer service and CX for all kinds of companies and organizations. I always ask, “Why is this topic important to you and this audience?” Most of the time, clients have a good answer, but occasionally, I hear something like, “We have terrible customer service, and we need someone like you to come in and share what we can do to be better.”

Trying not to sound flippant, I ask, “So you think that having me or someone like me do a one-hour speech is going to fix that?”

This leads to a bigger discussion about the company’s desire to change and the resources – time, talent, and dollars – it requires to make that happen. I then continue with a few more questions:

  1. What makes you think you need help with your customer service or CX?
  2. What would happen if you continued to do what you do and didn’t make a change?
  3. What does success look like, and how quickly do you want to see results?

The answers to these questions are the fuel needed to make the choice to change an easy one.

Then, there is another series of questions to determine the investment they are willing to make to carry out this choice to change. It’s going to take time. It’s going to take training, which is about talent. And then there are the dollars. And one final choice must be made, and it may be the most important of all. Will the leadership get behind the choice to change?

To summarize, the choice to change, especially in customer service and/or CX, is more than a verbal commitment. It requires substantial and sustained effort backed by resources and leadership support. Simply expressing the desire for improvement is not enough. Real change demands actionable plans and the alignment of time, talent, and investment. Companies must determine their current service levels, define success, and commit to the necessary steps and time to achieve it.

One more question: Are you ready to invest in a future where exceptional service is not just an aspiration but a reality? Act now! Your customers and your business can’t afford to wait.

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Airlines Are Soaring to New Heights in Passenger Satisfaction

Airlines Are Soaring to New Heights in Passenger Satisfaction

GUEST POST from Shep Hyken

There’s good news for those who fly the friendly skies. The experience is getting better.

If you think about it, airlines have a simple product experience. It’s a plane that moves people. Safety is the number one priority. Beyond that, get the passengers to the destination on time. Passengers have choices in airlines. Some are more cost-efficient, such as Frontier and Spirit; or for more money, others, like American and Delta, offer higher service levels, such as first-class cabins. The passenger gets to choose.

Beyond the amenities of the major airlines, one of the most important criteria for customer satisfaction is on-time performance. Not long ago, the public’s confidence in the airlines’ ability to get people to their destinations on time was so low that I joked, “You can treat passengers terribly, but just get them to their destinations safely and on time, and they will fly you again and again.”

Yes, it’s a joke until you are the one experiencing an airline’s electronic breakdown or you’re on the wrong side of a bad storm. Consider that on-time performance can be impacted by three main factors: weather, mechanical issues and operational execution.

Safety is first, and bad weather is a legitimate reason for delays and cancellations. Mechanical issues also fall into that category. Passengers should be happy when an airline finds out about a mechanical issue while the plane is on the ground rather than in the air. However, operational execution is not a good excuse for delays and cancellations. This is what passengers are paying for. For example, a plane that lands on time but ends up delayed because there wasn’t an open gate or a ground crew available to bring the plane in and open the doors is frustrating and stressful to passengers trying to make a connection.

Good News

Aviation analytics company Cirium’s annual On-Time Performance Review has tracked on-time performance for over 15 years. In 2023, the average on-time performance for North American airlines was 74.45%. That means one out of every four flights was either delayed or canceled.

Certain airlines have a better track record than others. In North America, Delta (84.72%), Alaska Airlines (82.25%), American (80.61%) and United (80.04%) are the top on-time performers. Delta and American Airlines also ranked in the top 10 of all global airlines.

More Good News

During the pandemic, airline travel dropped to incredible lows. The return of people flying for vacation and business travel indicated that the pandemic was in the rearview mirror. However, the industry struggled as it worked out how to safely bring back employees and put planes back in the air. But that, too, is in the rearview mirror.

According to the American Customer Satisfaction Index (ACSI), the airlines’ customer satisfaction levels are at an all-time high. Passengers are rating airlines high for experiences such as check-in, boarding, cabin cleanliness and general courteous customer service. Forrest Morgeson, associate professor of marketing at Michigan State University and research emeritus at the ACSI, says, “Airline customer satisfaction has climbed to new heights, reaching scores not seen even before the pandemic disrupted travel.”

A Brighter Horizon for Air Travel

While airlines offer a straightforward service—a safe and on-time flight—there is plenty that happens behind the scenes to make an airline run smoothly. What looks simple on the surface is actually very complicated. Safety, maintenance, scheduling, weather patterns, proper staffing and much more go into running a successful airline. Outside of weather and mechanical issues, operational execution is expected and is essential to maintaining the customer’s confidence in the airline.

Data from Cirium’s annual On-Time Performance Review and the recent results from the ACSI indicate that the airlines are on track. Ongoing improvements in airline customer service and operational efficiency show that the airlines are doing their best to provide a better experience, and exercising caution for weather and maintenance issues continues to make airlines one of the safest ways to travel.

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This article originally appeared on Forbes.com

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The Magic of Starting with Yes

The Magic of Starting with Yes

GUEST POST from Shep Hyken

It’s time to revisit the idea of avoiding the word “no,” but this time, I want to approach it from a different angle. First, let me tell you about my friend Dr. Nido Qubein, a devoted husband and father, motivational speaker, entrepreneur, president of High Point University, and mentor to many, who came to this country when he was 17 with little more than $50 to his name. Almost 50 years ago, he attended High Point University, never dreaming that one day he would be president of the institution, a position he accepted in 2005.

Since that time, there has been incredible growth at HPU. In his first year, the university had about 1,400 students enrolled on the 91-acre campus. Today, there are almost 6,000 students, including 623 graduate students. The campus has grown to more than 500 acres, includes 128 buildings, and is considered an elite university.

If you Google “Nido Qubein,” you will see a list of accomplishments that give insight into this man’s extraordinary career. As mentioned, he is a mentor to many, and even as a friend, I am among those who consider him a mentor. I’ve learned much from his willingness to share the lessons he learned from his successes, and today, I want to share a simple lesson we might all want to consider, which has to do with the word no.

If you’ve been following my work, you know I’ve written several articles about avoiding the word no. Christine Trippi and Cameron Mitchell have been featured in The Shepard Letter and in my videos discussing the topic. This time, I give you Nido’s perspective, and even though he’s not talking about customer service or CX, it ties in perfectly.

Nido recognizes that when someone new steps into a leadership role in any type of organization, authenticity and listening skills are of the utmost importance. People can be skeptical. He says, “I always start with a yes. It doesn’t always end that way after we’ve done the study, but a lot of people start with no.”

I love this idea. When our customers ask us for something or they have an issue, starting on a positive note, such as finding a way to use the word yes from the start can help guide the conversation in the right direction. This is what it looks like:

  • “Yes, I understand.”
  • “Yes, that’s a great idea worth considering.”
  • “Yes, you do have a problem, so let’s see what we can do about it.”
  • “Yes, that is a possibility. Let’s look at the situation more closely.”

Nido’s simple leadership lesson is also a powerful customer service lesson. When a customer comes to you with a problem or issue, you are in a leadership position. You are empowered with authority to help the customer. Saying yes is not about giving in. It’s about using the right word at the right time to create a better customer experience.

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Customer Service Makes You Money

Customer Service Makes You Money

GUEST POST from Shep Hyken

Necessity is the mother of invention. In 2003, Marton Anka, the founder of LogMeIn, now GoTo, spent three hours a day in Budapest crossing a bridge between Buda and Pest, the two halves of Hungary’s capital. He hated the “downtime,” so he invented remote access to a server so he could log in from anywhere—hence, the name of the company, LogMeIn.

Over time, the company expanded its offerings, had a few mergers and acquisitions and ultimately became GoTo, a company that makes IT management, support and business communications easy. Many of you reading this article may be familiar with GoTo Webinar and GoTo Meeting. These communication products (and others) have developed into a company focused on customer communication tools, phone systems, contact center platforms and engagement tools such as web chat, SMS communications, social media and more.

That’s the backdrop of my Amazing Business Radio interview with Joseph Walsh, vice president of product marketing at GoTo. We focused on several important concepts for CX leaders to consider as customer service continues to evolve and become one of the most powerful growth engines that fosters repeat business and customer loyalty. Below are the main points, followed by my comments:

  • The entire company must work in tandem with the customer support department. The old term silo came to mind. Many companies still have departments that operate almost autonomously, in silos, without regard to the other departments. Imagine the power a customer support agent working with a customer would have if they could easily reach out to someone in product development, accounting or sales in real time to get answers to their customer’s questions. Walsh says, “You need fast access to subject matter experts in other parts of the company.” This eliminates having to call the customer back and cuts down on the time it takes to answer customers’ questions and resolve their issues.

There are four stages of contact centers. Walsh talked about the four stages/lifecycle of a typical contact center. For an organization to understand where it is today, it must see where it fits into the different stages of contact centers, which are:

    1. Initiate Conversations: This is the traditional contact center. It’s where most companies start to build and expand their customer support department. They prepare to field multiple calls, answer emails, etc., often using basic/standard phone systems and computers to get started. People are trained with scripts, and while a good start, it’s still basic at best.
    2. Collaboration: This goes back to Walsh’s first point about collaborating with experts and departments throughout the company. On the customer’s first (and hopefully only) call, the agent can reach out to the appropriate people to get the right answers and convey that information to the customer for a much better experience.
    3. Digital Transformation: Walsh used the word omnichannel to describe how different communication channels work together seamlessly. A customer may start with a social media post to ask for help. At some point, they may be texting. That’s followed up with a phone conversation. But what makes this special is that it is a progressive conversation using these different communication platforms versus multiple interactions in which the customer must start over and repeat the story or problem at every interaction. Walsh says, “At this stage, the people and companies are beginning to master the craft of customer experience.”
    4. Automate and accelerate: This is where the modern contact center has evolved. Most of the first three stages of the lifecycle merge with modern technology and allow customers to employ self-service, work out problems and answer questions on their own. Automated processes and AI create a better experience by reducing and/or eliminating mundane, repetitive tasks. Customers and employees are happy.

    Customer service becomes a growth opportunity. It surprises me that some business leaders still view customer service as a cost center. The new way of looking at CX is that it is a revenue generator that retains customers and grows business. Walsh said, “The more evolved, digitally powered contact center is a growth center for achieving higher customer service scores that drive repeat customers and give the customer such a happy experience that they’re not concerned about price.” This powerful statement can be backed up with data proving customer service doesn’t cost. It pays!

    In a competitive marketplace, companies must prioritize exceptional customer experiences to thrive. By embracing collaboration, digital transformation and automation, companies and brands can turn customer service from a cost center into a growth engine. As Walsh emphasized, a digitally evolved contact center does more than simply improve service. It also drives loyalty, revenue and growth.

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    This article originally appeared on Forbes.com

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Revolutionizing Customer Service

Brian Higgins On Driving Verizon’s Customer Experience Vision

Revolutionizing Customer Service - Brian Higgins On Driving Verizon's CX Vision

GUEST POST from Shep Hyken

If you have the best product in the world, that’s nice, but it’s not enough. You need a strong customer experience to go with it.

If you have the best service in the world, that’s nice, but it’s not enough. You need a strong product to go with it.

And one other thing. You also need customers! Without them, it doesn’t matter if you have the best product and the best service; you will eventually go out of business.

That’s why I’m excited about this week’s article. I had the opportunity to have an Amazing Business Radio interview with Brian Higgins, the chief customer experience officer at Verizon Consumer. After a career of 20-plus years working for one of the most recognized brands in the world, he has a lot to share about what it takes to get customers to say, “I’ll be back.”

Verizon is one of the most recognizable brands on the planet. A Fortune 50 company, it has more than 100,000 employees, a global presence serving more than 150 countries, more than $130 billion in annual revenue and a market cap of more than $168 billion.

Higgins made it clear that in addition to a premium network and product offerings, there needs to be a focus on customer experience with three primary objectives: addressing pain points, enhancing digital experiences and highlighting signature experiences exclusive to Verizon customers/members. They want to be easy to do business with and to use Customer Experience (CX) to capture market share and retain customers. What follows is a summary of Higgins’ most important points in our interview, followed by my commentary:

  1. Who Reports to Whom?: With Verizon’s emphasis on CX, one of the first questions I asked Higgins was about the company’s structure. Does CX report to marketing? Is CX over sales and marketing? Different companies put an emphasis on marketing, sales or experience. Often, one reports to the other. At Verizon, sales, revenue and experience work together. Higgins says, “We work in partnership with each other. You can’t build an experience if you don’t have the sales, revenue and customer care teams all on board.” The chief sales officer, chief revenue officer and chief experience officer “sit next to each other.”
  2. Membership: In our conversation, Higgins referred to Verizon’s customers as customers, members and subscribers. I asked which he preferred, and he quickly responded, “I would refer to them as members.” The membership is diverse, but the goal is to create a consistent and positive experience regardless of how individuals interact with the company. He sees the relationship with members as a partnership that is an intricate part of their lives. Most people check their phone the moment they wake up, throughout the day, and often, it’s one of the last things they check before going to bed. Verizon is a part of its members’ lives, and that’s an opportunity that cannot be mismanaged or abused.
  3. Employees Must Be Happy Too: More companies are recognizing that their CX must also include EX (employee experience). Employees must have the tools they need. This is an emphasis in his organization. Simplifying the employee experience with better tools and policies is the key to elevating the customer’s experience. Higgins shared the perfect description of why employee experience is paramount to the success of a business: “If employees aren’t happy and don’t feel they have the policies and tools they need that are right to engage with customers, you’re not going to get the experience right.”
  4. Focus on Little Pain Points: One of the priorities Higgins focuses on is what he refers to as “small cracks in the experience.” Seventy-five percent of the calls coming in to customer care are for small problems or questions, such as a promo code that didn’t work or an issue with a bill. His team continuously analyzes all customer journeys and works to fix them when needed. This helps to minimize recurring issues, thereby reducing customer support calls and the time employees spend fixing the same issue.
  5. The Digital Experience: Customers are starting to get comfortable with—and sometimes prefer—digital experiences. Making these experiences seamless and user-friendly increases overall customer satisfaction. More and more, they are using digital platforms to help with the “small cracks in the experience.” Employees also get an AI-infused digital experience. Higgins said Verizon uses AI to analyze customer conversations and provide real-time answers and solutions to employees, demonstrating how AI can support both employees and customers.
  6. Amplifying the Power of One Interaction: The final piece of wisdom Higgins shared was about recognizing how important a single interaction can be. Most customers don’t call very often. They may call once every three years, so each interaction needs to be treated like it’s a special moment—a unique opportunity to leave a lasting positive impression, one that leaves no doubt the customer made the right decision to do business with Verizon. Higgins believes in treating the customer like a relative visiting your home for a holiday. He closed by saying, “You’d be amazed how getting that one interaction with a customer right versus anything less than right can have a huge impact on the brand.”

Higgins’ vision for Verizon is not just about maintaining a superior network. It’s about creating an unparalleled customer experience that resonates with every interaction. As Verizon continues integrating advanced AI technologies and streamlining its processes, the focus continues to be on personalizing and enhancing every customer touchpoint, creating an experience that fosters high customer satisfaction and loyalty.

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This article originally appeared on Forbes.com

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The Cost of Surprising Customers

The Cost of Surprising Customers

GUEST POST from Shep Hyken

Surprising customers with something they weren’t expecting doesn’t have to be expensive. In many cases, it can be very inexpensive or even free.

For example, surprising a couple with a cake and candle when they are celebrating at a restaurant costs a tiny fraction of the meal but greatly impacts the evening.

For years, I’ve shared the story of a cab driver who surprised his customers with a newspaper, a bottle of water and a side trip to see a famous local landmark. That side trip cost the driver nothing but a few minutes of time. And the newspaper and water cost him far less than the extra tip he received for adding these surprises to the experience.

Even though I have covered this concept before, it’s worth resurrecting. What inspired me to do so was an article by Chip Bell, my friend and fellow customer service expert, who recently wrote a Forbes article titled The Magic of Serving with Radical Generosity. His main example of this happened at the Marriott Long Wharf Hotel in Boston. He checked in late for a one-night stay. The front desk clerk upgraded him to one of the grandest rooms in the hotel.

The front desk clerk recognized Chip as a loyal Marriott Bonvoy member and knew the surprise of upgrading him to the nicer room wouldn’t cost the hotel any more than the regular room he was booked in. The result was a deepened sense of loyalty and sharing the story with others—in this case, thousands of readers of Chip’s Forbes article. The goodwill and word-of-mouth marketing the hotel received was far more than the upgrade cost, which was virtually nothing.

Surprising Customers Cartoon by Shep Hyken

But the surprise is nothing if there isn’t a supporting cast, as in the employees who make what Chip calls Radical Generosity come to life. The cast member’s role is to do more than just surprise the customer—it is to create a positive experience that transcends the surprise.

In my restaurant example, if all the server did was set a slice of cake in front of the guests and begrudgingly say, “Happy anniversary,” the experience would be tainted by the lack of enthusiasm for the moment. The guest might say, “That was nice, but …” It takes more than one positive moment to make the experience.

If you like the idea of surprising a customer, share these examples at your next team meeting. Then, kick off a discussion that starts with this question: What’s our version of a hotel’s room upgrade or a surprise slice of cake?

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Don’t Bring a Can of Gasoline to a Fire

Crisis Management

Don’t Bring A Can Of Gasoline To A Fire

GUEST POST from Shep Hyken

This is a departure from my usual customer service and customer experience (CX) articles. While it does tie in to service and CX, it is really about leadership. In customer service and CX, resolving a complaint or crisis means resolving the issue to the customer’s satisfaction, ideally in a way that makes the customer say, “I’ll be back.” Sometimes, customers’ requests and expectations can cause frustration, but let’s put it into perspective.

Let’s say that your customer isn’t an individual or a company that calls you with a request, question or problem. Instead, that customer is a branch of the military, such as the Army, Air Force, Navy, Marines or Coast Guard. Or perhaps, that customer is an entire country.

I recently had the privilege of visiting Scott Air Force Base and attending a lecture by Chief Master Sergeant Brian P. Kruzelnick, the command senior leader for the U.S. Transportation Command and principal advisor to the combatant commander and senior staff on matters concerning joint force integration, readiness, growth and utilization of the military workforce.

Chief Kruzelnick, or BK as he likes to be called, shared leadership lessons with an audience of 20 successful business owners. At the beginning of his presentation, he referred to all the people he served as customers. That caught my attention. In a way, the military is like a monopoly. If you want to “call in the troops,” you don’t shop around to determine which “brand” you want to work with, and you don’t get competitive pricing. You just get what you get.

But BK and his team take incredible pride in the work they do. They function like a group of senior leaders at a large, successful company. So, I asked, “BK, can I interview you for Amazing Business Radio and a Forbes article?” Fortunately for us all, he said, “Yes,” and the result is a number of lessons that all leaders can adopt for customer service, especially when it comes to crisis management.

BK started as if he were narrating a story: “It was 17 days in August. …” He was referring to the evacuation in Afghanistan in 2021. “We evacuated 123,334 men, women and children using 800 military aircraft. They went across nine countries and eight time zones. Unfortunately, 13 lives were lost, each one an American hero. We also had 20 babies born on those aircraft as we were evacuating them out.”

Consider the math. How many people could each plane transport? The larger C-17 planes are mainly used for cargo. They have the ability to move people, and with seats installed, usually about 120 passengers. But at one point, they put 823 people on a single aircraft. The engineers and experts knew they could do it. They actually had the passengers sat in the cargo hold and had a strap across their lap for safety. In a time of crisis, they successfully executed the largest evacuation the U.S. ever attempted.

But there was more. At the same time, there was a 7.2-magnitude earthquake in Haiti. There were wildfires in California that burned 1 million acres. A Category 4 hurricane blew through Louisiana. And if that wasn’t enough, there were safety inspections of the military’s larger aircraft that had to be completed across the entire fleet for a possible safety issue. BK proudly said, “And we got it all accomplished in 17 days in August. Wow!”

I joked about how many flight attendants it takes for 823 passengers. BK replied, “We don’t have flight attendants on C-17’s, but we have military personnel who are there to take care of business.” He shared a story about a young boy who was in the cargo hold and was laying on the floor next to his mother. He was cold and scared. One of the crew members took off his military jacket and wrapped it around the young boy, and then walked away to continue his job. Another crew member saw this and caught the moment with a photo.

BK said, “I think that defined the whole movement of what we did. Aside from everything else you hear about, that thing boiled down to humanity. Our ability to care for someone who needed to be cared for. That one picture epitomized that 17-day operation.”

In this incredible military operation, boundaries were pushed. Protocols were modified to suit the situation. The question was, how do you push or break a system that has never been stretched so far, and possibly change precedents for the future?

There is much to learn about managing a crisis from this incredible story. Let’s wrap up with BK’s six crisis management and leadership lessons:

1. Clarity in Times of Crisis: In times of crisis, there must be a clear objective that people can rally around. The goal is clarity. Everyone must understand what the commanding officer—or in the world of businesses, a leader or manager—wants and expects.

2. Extensive Training: People have to be trained to a level that makes them successful. On-the-job training is not possible in crisis situations. BK refers to this as Adventure Training. Nobody should be put into a position of questioning if something is going to work. On the contrary, there must be a level of comfort when you’re feeling the pressure of a crisis, and that comes from a foundation of strong training.

3. Prepare for the Worst: BK says, “I don’t think big companies think about their worst day. Most are building themselves to be at the best, optimal, all the time. But how many times do we think about our worst moments and how we can act and react to ensure we can still execute, perform and succeed? In the military, we run exercises all the time to make sure we can respond regardless of the situation. … There’s enough foundational training that we can operate and execute when called upon.”

4. Empowerment on Steroids: You must feel trusted enough to make decisions without fear of repercussions. BK said, “People must have the faith and trust of the organization resting on their shoulders that if they pushed the limits, which they knew they could do and still be safe, that no one would come down and try to hammer them negatively for what they did because there was trust in their expertise.”

5. Faith, Hope and Love: Let’s break these down one at a time:

  • Faith — As a leader, you must have faith in your organization, the processes, the people executing and yourself.
  • Hope — You must have hope. BK says, “Hope is critically important, because if you have hope, everybody that follows you will have hope because they’re looking to you as the leader.” I challenged that with the old saying, “Hope is not a strategy.” His quick response was, “Hopelessness is not a strategy either, so I would take hope.”
  • Love — Have passion for what you do and compassion for the people you do it with.

6. Bring Harmony to Chaos: As we came to the end of the interview, I asked for one final piece of crisis leadership advice. BK quickly responded, “Bring harmony to chaos. Don’t bring a can of gasoline to the fire!”

Image Credits: Pixabay

This article was originally published on Forbes.com.

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Creating the Ultimate Customer Experience with AI

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Creating the Ultimate Customer Experience with AI

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Whenever I get the chance to interview the CEO of a major CX company, I jump at the chance. I recently conducted a second interview with Alan Masarek, the CEO of Avaya, a company focused on creating customer experience solutions for large enterprises.

My first interview covered an amazing turnaround that Masarek orchestrated in his first year at Avaya, taking the company through Chapter 11 and coming out strong. Masarek admits that even with his extensive financial background, he’s always been a product person, and it’s the combination of the two mindsets that makes him the perfect leader for Avaya.

In our discussion, he shared his view on AI and how it must deliver value in the contact center. What follows is a summary of the main points of our interview, followed by my commentary.

Why Customer Service and CX Are Important: Thanks to the internet, it’s harder for brands to differentiate themselves. Within minutes, a customer can compare prices, check availability, find a company that can deliver the product within a day or two, or find comparable products from other retailers, vendors and manufacturers. Furthermore, while the purchasing experience needs to be positive, it’s what happens beyond the purchase that becomes most important. Masarek says, “Brands are now trying to differentiate based upon the experience they provide. So any tool that can help the brand achieve this is the winner.”

Customer Service Is Rooted in Communications: Twenty years ago, the primary way to communicate with a company was on the phone. While we still do that, the world has evolved to what is referred to as omni-channel, which includes voice, chat, email, brand apps, social media and more. As we move from the phone to alternative channels of communication, companies and brands must find ways to bring them all together to create a seamless journey for the customer.

Organizations Want to Minimize Voice: According to Masarek, companies want to move away from traditional voice communication, which is a human on the phone. That “one-to-one” is very expensive. With digital solutions, you have one-to-many. Masarek says, “It’s asynchronous. And the beauty is you can introduce AI utilities into the customer experience, which creates greater efficiency. You’re solving so many things either digitally or deflecting it altogether via the chatbot, the voice bot or what have you.”

AI Will Not Eliminate Jobs: Masarek says, “There’s a bull and a bear case for an employment point of view relative to AI. Will it be a destroyer of jobs, a bear case, or will it grow jobs, the bull case?” He shared an example that perfectly describes the situation we’re in today. In the 1960s, Barclay’s Bank introduced the ATM. Everyone thought it would be the end of tellers working at banks. That never happened. What did happen is that tellers took on a more important role, going beyond just cashing checks or depositing money. It’s the same in the customer service world. AI technologies will take care of simple tasks, freeing customer service agents to help with more complicated issues. (For more on how AI will not eliminate jobs, read this Forbes article from September 2023.)

The Employee Experience Drives the Customer Experience: AI is not just about supporting the customer. It can also support the agent. When the agent is talking to a customer, generative AI technology can listen in the background, search through a company’s knowledge base and feed the agent information in real time. Masarek said, “Think about what a pleasant experience that is for both the agent and the customer!”

Innovation Without Disruption: A company may invest in a better customer experience, but sometimes, that causes stress to the organization. Masarek is proud of Avaya’s value proposition, which is to add innovation without disruption. This means there’s a seamless integration versus total replacement of existing systems and processes. Regarding the upgrade, Masarek says, “The last thing you want is to rip it all out.”

The Customer-In Approach: As we wrapped up our interview, I asked Masarek for one final nugget of wisdom. He shared his Customer-In approach. Not that long ago, you could compete on product, price and availability. Today, that’s table stakes. What separates one brand from another is the experience. Masarek summarized this point by saying, “You have to set your North Star on as few things as possible. Focus wins. And so, if you’re always thinking Customer First and all your decisions are rooted in that concept, your business will be successful. At the end of the day, brands win on how they make the customer feel. It’s no longer just about product, price and availability.”

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This article was originally published on Forbes.com.

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