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Making Your Customer the Hero

Making Your Customer the Hero

GUEST POST from Shep Hyken

“What we say doesn’t matter. What our customers say is what matters!”

Those are the words of Ragy Thomas, founder and CEO of Sprinklr, a customer experience software platform used by an incredible list of clients that includes nine of the 10 most valuable brands in the world and whose mission is to enable every organization on the planet to make their customers happier.

I had the chance to interview Thomas at a recent conference in Dubai. We began by discussing the company’s vision, which he conceived in 2009 and is just as appropriate today as it was back then: To be the world’s most loved enterprise software company.

Now, that’s a pretty lofty vision, and I love it. Some might even refer to it as a goal. I can envision Sprinklr’s leadership team meeting to discuss new ideas and products and how this vision might come up in the discussion. I can picture Thomas asking the question behind his vision, “Is what you’re proposing going to help us continue to be the most loved enterprise software company in the world?”

Phrasing the vision in the form of a question can help reveal the opportunities and pitfalls of a new idea. It’s obvious that if the answer is “No,” the discussion changes the approach to the new idea. It could even stop the discussion altogether. But if an idea is in sync with the vision, the question fuels the conversation.

So, how do you define what customers love? The answer comes in the form of feedback. And here is where Thomas shared another concept: The customer is always the hero.

Specifically, Thomas referred to how Sprinklr gets feedback and sums it up by saying, “What we say doesn’t matter. What our customers say is what matters.”

So, I asked, what kind of feedback works? I was surprised to hear Thomas stays away from the Net Promoter Score (NPS) question, which is: On a scale from zero to 10, what’s the likelihood that you would recommend us to a friend or colleague? Thomas said, “The NPS question makes the company the hero. It is a little presumptuous to be asking customers if they would recommend us, which means we get to be the hero again.”

Of course, Thomas would love for customers to recommend them, but he wants the focus to be 100% on the customer. He wants to make them the heroes, and what he cares about is knowing the customer is happy. It’s that simple, which is why he believes the right question for Sprinklr is: On a scale of one to 10, how happy are you with us?

So, if a customer rates the Sprinklr product and experience as any number less than 10, there is a follow-up question: What three things could we do to get you to give us a 10?

And if you didn’t already notice, the customer’s happiness is tied to their vision. They want their customers to love the company, so much so that Thomas believes that a score of 10 is the only acceptable score. If the customer were to rate them less than a nine or 10, Thomas and his team want to know why and what they can do to improve the product or experience.

Some may argue that any simple feedback question similar to NPS, CSAT or any other rating gives you a base to know the overall customer sentiment. I don’t disagree, but I do like that Thomas and his team are purposeful about always putting the customer first and their desire to get them to love Sprinklr at the center of the conversation. In the end, it may not matter what words Sprinklr uses to create feedback questions. What matters is knowing that they are achieving their vision, which is worth repeating: To be the world’s most loved enterprise software company.

This article originally appeared on Forbes.com

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The Hero’s Journey of Innovation

Inspiring Your Team to Embrace the Unknown

The Hero's Journey of Innovation

GUEST POST from Chateau G Pato

Every great innovation, like every great story, begins with a choice: to stay in the comfortable, known world or to answer the call to adventure and venture into the unknown. As a human-centered change and innovation thought leader, I’ve seen countless organizations struggle with this fundamental challenge. We often focus on the mechanics of innovation — the processes, the tools, the metrics — but we fail to address the most critical element: the human spirit. To truly innovate, we must stop seeing it as a predictable business process and start seeing it as a hero’s journey, a narrative arc that inspires, empowers, and guides our teams through the uncertainty and risk required to create something new.

The Hero’s Journey, a concept popularized by mythologist Joseph Campbell, describes a universal narrative pattern found in countless stories, from ancient myths to modern blockbusters. It involves a hero who leaves their ordinary world, confronts trials and tribulations, gains new knowledge, and returns transformed. This framework is not just for fiction; it is a powerful metaphor for the human experience of change and growth. By re-framing the innovation process through this lens, we can transform it from a daunting, risky endeavor into a compelling adventure that people are excited to embark on.

The Innovation Journey: A Modern Myth

Let’s map the stages of the hero’s journey onto the innovation process to understand how we can better lead our teams:

  • The Ordinary World (The Status Quo): This is your company’s comfort zone—the familiar products, processes, and market position. It feels safe, but it’s also where stagnation begins. The hero (your innovator or team) is living in this world, and for a time, it feels good.
  • The Call to Adventure (The New Idea): A new market trend, a customer pain point, or a disruptive technology emerges. This is the call, the first glimmer of an opportunity to do something different. It is often met with resistance and fear.
  • Refusal of the Call (The Resistance): This is the most common stage. The team hesitates, citing risks, budget constraints, or a lack of resources. The “we’ve always done it this way” mindset is a powerful force of gravity. Leaders must recognize and address this fear head-on.
  • Meeting the Mentor (The Leader’s Role): This is where you, as the leader, step in. You are the mentor who provides guidance, psychological safety, and the tools needed to start the journey. You don’t have all the answers, but you offer wisdom, support, and the courage to take the first step.
  • Crossing the Threshold (The First Step): The team commits to the project. This is the moment they leave the comfort zone. It could be launching a small pilot project, building a prototype, or securing initial funding. This is where the risk becomes real, and the journey truly begins.
  • Tests, Allies, and Enemies (The Innovation Process): This is the long middle part of the journey. The team faces challenges—technical hurdles, budget cuts, internal skepticism, and market feedback. They also find allies—champions within the organization, external partners, and supportive customers.
  • The Ordeal (The Crisis): Every innovation journey has a moment of crisis—a failed prototype, a critical negative review, a major competitor launch. This is the low point, where the team’s resolve is tested. This is where resilience is built.
  • The Reward (The First Success): After the ordeal, a breakthrough occurs. A successful pilot, a positive beta test, or a critical finding. This is the hero’s reward, the moment of validation that fuels the rest of the journey.
  • The Road Back (The Scaling): The hero must now return to the ordinary world, but they are not the same. They must scale their innovation, integrate it into the business, and convince the rest of the organization of its value.
  • The Resurrection (The Big Launch): The final test. The public launch, the full-scale rollout. It is the culmination of the journey, where the innovation is either reborn as a new product or fails to make its mark.
  • Return with the Elixir (The New Normal): The hero returns, bringing with them a new product, a new process, or a new way of thinking. The organization is forever changed. The hero, and the team, have learned valuable lessons and are ready for the next adventure.

“An innovation culture isn’t built on a process flowchart; it’s built on a shared narrative of courage, resilience, and transformation.”


Case Study 1: The Pixar Journey from Toy Story to a Studio

The Challenge:

In the early 1990s, Pixar was a small computer graphics company with a radical idea: to create the world’s first feature-length film entirely with CGI. This was a monumental risk. They were leaving the “ordinary world” of short films and commercials for the unknown world of feature animation, competing with titans like Disney. The “Call to Adventure” was clear, but the “Refusal of the Call” was a powerful force from Hollywood and even within their own company, who doubted the technology’s ability to tell a compelling story.

The Heroic Innovation:

Pixar’s leaders acted as mentors, providing a clear vision and psychological safety for the team. The “Crossing the Threshold” was the initial investment and the start of production. The “Tests and Ordeals” were numerous—technical challenges (rendering a single frame took hours), a near-catastrophic script rewrite, and a constant battle to prove the viability of their approach. But they had allies in Steve Jobs and a dedicated team who saw the vision. The “Reward” was the first successful test screening, and the “Resurrection” was the theatrical release of *Toy Story*.

The Result:

The success of *Toy Story* was not just a commercial win; it was a testament to a heroic innovation journey. It proved that a team, when guided by a compelling narrative and a resilient leadership, could overcome seemingly impossible obstacles. The “Elixir” they returned with was not just a successful film, but a new model for animation and a creative culture that continues to define the industry. The journey transformed them from a tech company into a storytelling powerhouse.


Case Study 2: The Dyson Story – A Relentless Pursuit of an Idea

The Challenge:

In the 1980s, the vacuum cleaner market was a comfortable, established world dominated by large corporations and bag-based technology. James Dyson’s “Call to Adventure” was a simple observation: vacuum cleaners lose suction because their bags clog with dust. His idea for a bagless, cyclone-based vacuum was a radical departure, a clear challenge to the status quo that was met with widespread “Refusal of the Call” from every major manufacturer who dismissed the idea as commercially unviable.

The Heroic Innovation:

Dyson’s personal journey is a powerful example of the hero’s arc. He acted as his own mentor, and his lab became the “Unknown World.” The “Ordeals” were legendary: 5,127 failed prototypes over five years, countless rejections from manufacturers, and a constant struggle for funding. His “Allies” were his family and a few dedicated engineers. The “Reward” was the successful creation of the first Dual Cyclone vacuum. The “Resurrection” was its launch in Japan, followed by its triumphant return to the UK market.

The Result:

Dyson didn’t just innovate a new product; he innovated an entire industry. His “Elixir” was not just a successful vacuum cleaner, but a new design philosophy built on relentless experimentation and a refusal to accept the status quo. His story proves that a single-minded pursuit of a new idea, when framed as a heroic journey, can overcome immense odds and redefine an entire market, inspiring an entire generation of innovators to follow their own calls to adventure.


Conclusion: Lead the Journey, Don’t Just Manage the Process

The future belongs to the organizations that can consistently and courageously innovate. And to do that, we must move beyond the sterile, process-driven view of innovation and embrace it as a heroic journey. As leaders, our role is to act as mentors and guides. We must frame the challenges not as roadblocks, but as trials. We must celebrate the small victories as rewards and offer support during the darkest moments of the ordeal.

By telling a compelling story about the change we are trying to create, we can inspire our teams to step out of their ordinary worlds and into the unknown. We can transform fear into courage, hesitation into action, and failure into a source of valuable learning. The journey is difficult, but the rewards—a transformed organization and a team of true innovators—are immeasurable. It’s time to stop managing innovation and start leading the adventure.

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